The fate of FF & NH

I have to disagree on the "hes a good masterdebator" thing though. He likes to debate things that really maybe 3 people in the universe know for sure. Take gesturegate. did he really mean a "throat slash" or not. FF going to say yes and he lied because it fits his cause.

I have a feeling Callahan is the kind of guy that if he wants to send you a throat slash, there will be no doubt.

 
I received the following from formerfan – since it was sent via email I didn’t know if the rest of you received it:

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I thought we were trying to get away from these back-biting pissing contests???

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and more of the same garbage

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The actual posts are, in order:

You know, it's sad that on every board you cannot get into a discussion without a troll who blatantly baits people into arguments. Why the mods leave him around, I do not understand. If he actually provided something to the board, rather than the constant aggravation of everyone, I might understand.
In any case, I highly doubt BC is going anywhere. The pro game is too much of a crapshoot and I doubt he goes thru the revolving door yet again. For all he did with the likes of Rich Gannon, Charlie Garner, Tyrone Wheatley, etc., and to be given the door one season after going to the Super Bowl? You know that BC was highly tweaked over the lack of respect shown and I cannot blame him.

Once he rights the ship completely at Nebraska, he will achieve a status he will NEVER get in the NFL. As long as Cally wins, the money, fame and respect will follow him throughout the state of Nebraska.

To put it this way...

Cally could walk into an old folks home in Tenbucktoo, Nebraska and every patron would want to shake his hand, take pictures and talk to him.

Go to Oakland and they would be telling him they don't enjoy the game of foosball.

I truely believe Cally has found his last stop (granted he wins) in his coaching career.
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Couldn't have said it any better Willie, specially the first paragraph
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Anyways to get this thread back on topic, i think Callahan's approval rating is much more higher then the President's approval rating. In MY OPINION, he has embarced the Nebraska tradition and is taking small steps towards a brighter future REGARDLESS if some people can see it or not. Those of us that have a positive outlook on life can see those babysteps and that's why we are being patient while being attacked by the pessimist who look for every negative little detail to use as ammo and fail to realize that Coach Callahan is a human being who regardless whether he admits it or not makes mistakes. I deploy the philosophy "forgive, forget, and move on".
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Formerfan may have a point here. When you break it down, ###### is taking potshots at former by chiming in on other posts – he’s essentially trying to bait formerfan and trying to start a pissing contest.

If no one has responded yet, I can do so. However, given the fact that he thinks I hate him and that I’m looking for any excuse to have him banned, it might be a good idea for someone to PM Nameless (and copy us in this thread) and tell him to knock it off – and that if he continues, we will consider it a violation as an attempt to again engage formerfan in a pissing contest. Something along those lines.

We would then need to let formerfan know we’ve taken action, just so he isn’t tempted to take matters into his own hands.

Thoughts?

 
I recieved it. I have been thinking about it. He has a point, it's hard to just ignore the big elephant, so to speak, in those posts.

Yea, I think you are right Frank. I nominate rawhide to contact him. It would be interesting to see if he reacts differently to different mods.

 
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I received it also. FF has a valid point. OTOH, FF goes off on a tangent using other posts to go off topic somewhat just not as obvious. I'll be glad to msg NH about this situation without any misgivings. Just give me an idea of how far to go. Or contact me on msn messenger rjvryheid@hotmail.com to talk right away.

 
I would say that the mods and other members have noted the posts ( link them as they were in the reported posts) and the comments are really serving no purpose other than to bait FF. It's obvious. Basically shape up or ship out.

Franks always good at writing stuff up like that. ;)

 
Saw your PM, rawhide.

He doesn't get it. Nothing Former has posted lately is really against any rule. There is no rule saying you can't have a dissenting opinion. That's really all he has posted. recently. Nameless just doesn't get it.

If we wanted to reply, it could simply contain the sentence. "Simply posting a dissenting opinion is not against the rules."

Also, I really want to call this guy out on his "OMG people have been emailing me!". What does everyone else think? All we have to do is ask these people he sites. In both replies.

He thinks he's bigger than the board. That's f'ing bullsh#t. If he does end up getting banned, I think we need to send an email out to all members or simply start a thread about why he was let go and telling everyone that he thought he was bigger than the board and thought this board would die without him. Even put money on it.

 
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Nameless,
You were given an ultimatum recently about getting into a word war with Formerfan. The Admin and all the mods hoped you would take this message to heart. You bring so much to the board with your insight and depth of knowledge. BUT, instead of directly confronting FF you are baiting him by using others posts in an attempt to get him to react badly to your offhanded replys. The below link is the most recent example. This course you have chosen will also get you banned if you continue. No further warnings or arguments will be made. Now is the time to either adhere to the guidelines the admin have stated or you will be banned.

http://www.huskerboard.com/forums/index.ph...?showtopic=7120

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Formerfan said:Not sure about this. With all the openings in the NFL this year, wouldnt a team or two come calling if he was so great?

Formerfan said:"What throat slash?? That was not a throat slash"

Formerfan said:It shows that he had no problem telling a blatant untruth publicly. It calls his honesty and integrity into question.

Who knows if he's telling the truth?

Formerfan said:Even though recruiting has picked up some, Im not sure about his philosophy. I could be wrong, but it seems more like an "offer everyone, see if we get lucky" system.

Formerfan said:Normally when they show billy c on TV, he either has his head buried in the playbook, or is spitting.

So do you still think i am the one baiting? How many positives do you see in those quotes, how many negatives do you see. If the admins and mods feel like i am the one baiting and that i am trying to start a world war with formerfan even after he continues to piss people off one by one and drive them away (and blackshirt knows exactly who i am talking about) and press his negative opinion on anyone without anyone actually rebutting his point of view then banning me is probably going to be the best solution for the board because quite honestly, there's one way to express your concern about the coaching staff and the team and their progress, and he continuously steps past that line to the extreme and continues to rip on coaches, insult players and recruits time and time again, piss posters off by coming on a board after a win and making excuses of why NU should have lost the game instead of completing the staff.

I already know several posters on this board have my back like KansasHusker, HSKRNOKC, StuckinChicago, Huskrz65, Hunter94, blackshirtsguru, sparntess, kc_husker, skersfan, Roy CO HSKR, BelieveN, BigRedDallasTexan, paHUSKERMAN who have all emailed me in the last 2 days telling me how much of a prick Formerfan is and that the board would be better off without him (and correct me if i am wrong, but aren't the majority of those guys i mentioned the most active posters on the board?).

Like i said, do what you have to do but i will continue to defend these coaches and criticize them (when they need to be criticized) in a professional manner and not call a head coach an A-hole like Formerfan has done. Not to sound arrogant or cocky, but i am willing to lay down a 100$ if this board doesn't die in a couple of months after i leave. Like i said, it's not about being cocky, it's more about FF chasing posters away. I saw it happen on HuskerPedia, and i saw it happen on BigHuskerfan.
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Ban him.

I was hopeful that if someone else contacted him, he would react correctly. He didn't. He has essentially said he doesn't care what the rules are, he's going to do whatever the hell he wants, and as Dave noted, he thinks he's bigger than the board itself.

Personally, while he may bring some information to the board, I don't think that his presence is a major factor in most members' continuing to visit.

 
What a complete tool. He is like a flippin little kid. We all know this board wasn't jack until he brought his "inside" knowledge. :wacko: If those other guys believe he is this all mighty figure then I guess that is on them. I actually thought at first he was all right but now he is a hairy beanbag.

Can I get some of that sweet $100 action though. We have a lot of diapers to buy. :thumbs

As far as formerfan goes if those guys would just ignore his BS I thank he would stop posting it. I don't mind his negative attitude but some of it is pretty tired.

Who is the person that former ran off?

 
I think any reasonable person can resist the temptation to retaliate against FF and his negative posts(except snide comments). NH just doesn't get it. He wants to continue to debate FF and each others post and forget that the thread just went around the bend. I get more disgusted with those two moronic twins arguing than anything they say about the true topic. If he could comprehend that it would preclude his ejection from the board but I don't believe he can or will. IMO Course like I said earlier FF needs to mend his ways also. No more tangential topic veers about the staff during a recruiting thread, etc blah blah blah yada yada yada. When either is talking about a specific topic they post reasonably well. But that is infrequent at best. 'nuff said.

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To respond to a few topics:

-Brainless wont be redeeming any points during his "probation" period, so no worries theres. I havent even responded to him nor do I really intend to.

-BH emailed me a bunch of names he clamined "had his back" and PMd him, all within 2 hrs of my Ultimatum post. all of which were lies

-I have no problem with banning him at this point. like you guys have noted, the f'r just doesnt get it.

so what do you think is the best course for this - to make it as clean as possible? We dont want to go Vincent Vega here - altho it would be more fun. So do we move some posts to the Offenders thread to document it like I outlined in my post, or just pull the trigger and never mention a word about him again? Im inclined to go with B, b/c I know it would drive him insane that we act like we just forgot about him. But at the same time I dont want to look like we dont follow through with our words, when the word gets out that he was banned, adn you know Idiot will be emailing everyone offline, or via his "other" IDs, i.e WillHenry etc.

And even though the guy concerns me as much as a mallcop, I really dont want the headache of dealing with the mess he will probably create by attempting to make good on his "$100 threat" - and make it his life mission to take us down. So I'd prefer for him to just GTF away.

 
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I would say we would follow up with our original procedure. The way I look at it is we should stick to the rules we set out otherwise, people might think we never do anything about it.

Either way, I'm for letting this jacka$$ go. One thing we might have to watch out for is this jacka$$ talkin smack after you boot him.

I'm off to a hockey game tonight with the wife, so I won't be around. You can reach my cell though if you need to..

 
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I have to disagree on the "hes a good masterdebator" thing though. He likes to debate things that really maybe 3 people in the universe know for sure. Take gesturegate. did he really mean a "throat slash" or not. FF going to say yes and he lied because it fits his cause.
I have a feeling Callahan is the kind of guy that if he wants to send you a throat slash, there will be no doubt.
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FWIW, I responded to FF with something pretty similar to Frank's note, and here was his response..

Cool  :thumbs   I know that I am as much as fault as nameless is, and I am embarrassed about how some of those threads turned out. For a quite some time, I tried keeping clear of long, drawn out debates with him, because it goes nowhere. Like you said, someone has to step up, and sometimes I need a good kick in the a$$ to straighten my act out :blink:

Thanks  :thumbs
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*now here's an example of a guy who is an arrogant a$$, but still "gets it".

 
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I like option B, but whatever, doesn’t matter to me, though you know the topic is bound to come up. Maybe post a follow-up in the ultimatum thread that NH was banned because he couldn’t live up the ultimatum and that’s that. <-his absence is bound to be noticed.

So are you talking about a 30 day suspension or a 2026 ban?

 
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