The P&R Plague Thread (Covid-19)

teachercd said:
I don't get why people travel overseas...the flight alone is like a virus.

And a cruise???  No thanks.
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I have a couple of employees that I'm trying to talk out of traveling overseas due to this, but they aren't getting that it's a huge risk right now so not much I can do about it. The wife, kids and I usually take a cruise every year around May, but not this year. 

 
FrantzHardySwag said:
It'd be interesting to see her H&P, - smoker/nonsmoker, underlying conditions (asthma or bronchitis), ect. Also she's been in Omaha for a week+, so uhhhh, good luck on containment. 
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It will. If she lacks any of the classic co-morbidities that increases risk with seasonal influenza, then.....uh oh. 

 
So, about the Government Corona Virus Checks, each one needs to come with a signed card with a message from Trump. I can just imagine what it might say. 

Sorry I f'd this up so bad. It wasn't a hoax, it wasn't contained, and we weren't on top of it. This might help a bit with some of your costs, unless, of course, you die. In that case, my bad. 

Trump 2020

PS. I blame Kushner! MAGA! 

Oh and isn't it ironic the great american toilet paper shortage happened on the Trump/ Pence watch/

Cna7rFWVIAAecSp


 
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ActualCornHusker said:
I don't think this idea will be protested even here. 

Instead of throwing $700 billion at the banks, why not take that same money and give it proportionally to all Americans? That would be around $2,000 per citizen in their pocket to help them sustain themselves and/or spend at business to keep the economy flowing. 

Proclaiming "no business will be allowed to fail" is just not realistic. Businesses fail every single day, and many who were teetering at the brink of failure prior to this ordeal should be allowed to close. Let customers decide what businesses they want to solicit and support rather than bureaucracy doing so. That's bound to turn out poorly. 
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So, right now, I'm an extremely healthy company.  The government locks down society so that my products can not be sold.  I still have bank loans and commitments.

I should go bankrupt and out of business ONLY because of this disease.

 
Normally these things don't concern me much. I'm fairly healthy, not THAT old and I don't tend to get colds or flu often. But I am on a medication that supposedly wrecks my immune system. Theoretically I would fall in to that immune compromised category. So I don't want to find out how I would fare too badly. Although I do have my doubts about how useless my immune system really is. Ever since I started this medication 5+ years age, I don't recall being sick once.

 
I say we seize the assets of America's billionaires. Spread that out proportionally to all businesses and citizens. That's about $209 trillion according to a quick search

That should be enough cash to ride this out.  And only 600 people are harmed.

Win/Win

 
JJ Husker said:
Normally these things don't concern me much. I'm fairly healthy, not THAT old and I don't tend to get colds or flu often. But I am on a medication that supposedly wrecks my immune system. Theoretically I would fall in to that immune compromised category. So I don't want to find out how I would fare too badly. Although I do have my doubts about how useless my immune system really is. Ever since I started this medication 5+ years age, I don't recall being sick once.
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You’ll be good, hand hygiene and don’t touch your face without clean hands. Hopefully summer will help reduce the impact and by next winter we can find a vaccine. I think you have the attitude everyone should have, don’t panic but be cautious. 

 
BIGREDIOWAN said:
I have a couple of employees that I'm trying to talk out of traveling overseas due to this, but they aren't getting that it's a huge risk right now so not much I can do about it. The wife, kids and I usually take a cruise every year around May, but not this year. 
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Right now I can get you a great deal on a round trip to China...interested?  

 
BigRedBuster said:
So, right now, I'm an extremely healthy company.  The government locks down society so that my products can not be sold.  I still have bank loans and commitments.

I should go bankrupt and out of business ONLY because of this disease.
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Ah I probably didn't completely understand what you meant. 

So what's the trade off? Macron said rent and utility bills get suspended... what about the utility companies and your landlord? Do they go belly up so you don't have to? Then what? All of that stuff sounds good in theory but it will have horrible consequences

 
BlitzFirst said:
What I was referring to was people running from one state to another fleeing like refugees.  Evidently, that wasn't conveyed if you didn't read the article.
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I didn't read it, people fleeing from states is crazy in itself, police stopping cars and people getting quarantined is also pretty crazy though. 

Read it and my thoughts still stand on it. 

 
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knapplc said:
I say we seize the assets of America's billionaires. Spread that out proportionally to all businesses and citizens. That's about $209 trillion according to a quick search

That should be enough cash to ride this out.  And only 600 people are harmed.

Win/Win
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The reality is that the 400 richest Americans have $2.96 trillion in wealth.

Even taxing all of them at 50% for wealth above $1 billion, the "poorest" of them would still be worth $1.55 billion and the richest $57.5 billion. That would net $1.28 trillion in tax revenue, which is enough to pay every American $3878.

If we instead took drastic measures and taxed all of them at 100% for wealth above $1 billion, all of them would still be billionaires (but not multi-billionaires). That would net $2.56 trillion in tax revenue, which is enough to pay every American $7757.

And that's just 400 Americans compared to 330 million Americans.

 
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A word of warning. I don't know where all this deal has spread to but if it's not in your state/area yet, and you're inclined to want to stock up on any groceries, especially disinfectant, Clorox, wipes, hand sanitizer, etc. you should get them now. Maybe it's happening everywhere already but boy did the grocery stores get emptied around here in a hurry. I wouldn't call it mass hysteria but it's kinda like that.

 
RedDenver said:
The reality is that the 400 richest Americans have $2.96 trillion in wealth.

Even taxing all of them at 50% for wealth above $1 billion, the "poorest" of them would still be worth $1.55 billion and the richest $57.5 billion. That would net $1.28 trillion in tax revenue, which is enough to pay every American $3878.

If we instead took drastic measures and taxed all of them at 100% for wealth above $1 billion, all of them would still be billionaires (but not multi-billionaires). That would net $2.56 trillion in tax revenue, which is enough to pay every American $7757.

And that's just 400 Americans compared to 330 million Americans.
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It's important to note that that was in no way a serious recommendation.

 
BlitzFirst said:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/03/29/bernie-sanders-supporters-vote-trump-over-biden-poll/2936124001/

Like I said, cool story.

Also, 10% of Biden voters would do the same if their candidate didn't win:  https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/sanders-voters-helped-trump-win-white-house-could-they-do-n1145306

Also:

https://morningconsult.com/2020/03/17/sanders-voters-loyalty-2020/

So which is it?  7% or 15%?  Who's right?  Is it a narrative?

I don't know ANY Sanders supporters who will vote for Trump.  I've been to 5 different Sanders functions and met hundreds of people.  NONE said they would vote for Trump...they're disgusted by him.
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12% last time....with polls showing between 7% and 15% this time.  so...maybe that 12% holds again?

 
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