The P&R Plague Thread (Covid-19)

FrantzHardySwag said:
The answer is testing. @RedDenver thanks for the great link above. We're fighting an invisible opponent right now, to reveal that opponent we need mass testing - yesterday. Our shot at long term slowing this down is testing. 
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And testing is STILL what they are refusing to do. Reports across Nebraska and Iowa that symptomatic people are STILL not being tested unless they have traveled or come into direct contact with a known case. Everyone knows the virus is here. Everyone knows symptomatic people that can't get a test. Everyone knows testing is the answer. If I come down with symptoms, I will lie in order to be tested and protect my family and loved ones. They are risking the entire population by still adhering to these terrible testing guidelines that likely weren't even appropriate a month ago.  This thing has changed, those two questions are now irrelevant. If test don't soon become available to all symptomatic people, frustrations will boil over and we'll end up with more issues than just the virus to deal with. Everyone is seeing the rich, the famous, and the athletes get tested on demand, but the rest of us are told to stay inside for 14 days and ride it out. 

What's more not testing is even more damaging to the economy. Test folks for the virus, if they don't have it they can assume normal sick leave protocol then get their butts back to work making and spending money. A 14+ day quarantine takes them out of the economy for an extended amount of time, which will be repeated for every cold/ flu/ etc they might catch that is not corona. 

Listening to people, I fear we are building a tinder box of frustrations that are reinforcing and exaggerating socio-economic frustrations that were already popping and boiling beneath the surface. I am just as fearful of that fuse being lit as I am the virus. 

 
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It's a bit baffling because Trump sending American supplies to China is the kind of thoughtful gesture our America First President never makes. Also, the kind of gesture we might have lauded in Obama, being both humanitarian and preventative. 

Trump can't brag about his generosity in this case because it's the kind of thing his base abhors. Imagine if Barack Obama had sent our live saving gear to China while Americans died. 

Fascinating how many different ways one President can keep f#&%ing up. 

 
Decoy73 said:
Exactly. And that’s my whole point from my original post on this. We failed on the preparation part and that was likely do the administration’s ignorance.  
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Right but I think the point Red Denver is making is that the move to send equipment to China is actually good in and of itself, the mistake is in not replacing that equipment and producing even more. 

 
Sounds like the Big 3 are about to shut down production. Should hear something in a few hours. Some workers have been walking off the line the past few days, and now one has tested positive at a plant.

 
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knapplc said:
Crazy that people would watch updates from the government during a time of crisis.

He acts like it's him people are tuning in to see. They would have exactly the same ratings if any other person was up there.
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IDK..,

I think a lot of people watch because it is bound to be a joke.  Which makes Trump bragging about it pathetic.  He’s like the kid on the playground drawing a crowd because he’s about to eat a dog turd, “geez! Look how much people want to play with me!  I’m the most popular kid on the playground!”

 
Guy Chamberlin said:
It's a bit baffling because Trump sending American supplies to China is the kind of thoughtful gesture our America First President never makes. Also, the kind of gesture we might have lauded in Obama, being both humanitarian and preventative. 

Trump can't brag about his generosity in this case because it's the kind of thing his base abhors. Imagine if Barack Obama had sent our live saving gear to China while Americans died. 

Fascinating how many different ways one President can keep f#&%ing up. 
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I didn't even think about it like that.  You are totally right though.

 
funhusker said:
IDK..,

I think a lot of people watch because it is bound to be a joke.  Which makes Trump bragging about it pathetic.  He’s like the kid on the playground drawing a crowd because he’s about to eat a dog turd, “geez! Look how much people want to play with me!  I’m the most popular kid on the playground!”
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I would bet nearly no one watches those pressers to see a Trump train wreck. It's a pretty serious topic to be taking that lightly. Besides, that's what late-night shows are for.

 
QMany said:
I'm sorry to hear this, BRB. 

My father, mother, and sister own/operate a wedding venue. It was chugging along nicely, so they all quit their other jobs and this became their sole source of income. These restrictions have explicitly zeroed out their revenue for the foreseeable future. My parents just sold their home and built a smaller home... on a sliver of the wedding venue property. If their is no relief at the banking level, I fear the absolute worst for their business and housing.
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Why not still book business, take a deposit as good faith, and do the weddings later?  I mean...it should still work out unless the groom wisens up and calls it off.

 
knapplc said:
They would have exactly the same ratings if any other person was up there.
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I think they’d actually be higher. I stopped tuning in when they muzzled Dr. Fauci. I don’t want a KKKampaign rally, I want important information from credible experts. 

 
teachercd said:
Why not still book business, take a deposit as good faith, and do the weddings later?  I mean...it should still work out unless the groom wisens up and calls it off.
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They are scheduled out for the most part the rest of 2020. The events for the next 8 weeks are in the process of rescheduling. That isn't too bad. But if the restrictions continue, your model doesn't work in reality. Brides will start asking for refunds and seeking alternative plans. And deposits alone don't pay all the bills. 

 
knapplc said:
Initial reports seemed to indicate that mortality was greatest at 65 & over. I think when we look back on this we're going to see that wasn't quite true, and led to a lot of false optimism from younger people.
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All the data is still pointing to it being significantly more deadly for older population and people with pre existing conditions. That's not to say its not deadly for young people, we will see young people on vents and ultimately succumb to this - but it's happening at a much, much higher rate as age goes up. 

 
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