The P&R Plague Thread (Covid-19)

JJ Husker said:
I've lived in Weld county since 1986. I've never really known much of anything about the county commissioners. They're usually out of sight, out of mind. The people elected to those positions always seem to be country cowboy types.

This is a little premature imo given the problems Weld County is having with the virus. I feel pretty safe saying that over 90% of our (Greeley/Weld Co) infections can be traced directly to the JBS plant. I know a little bit about these large packers and I have absolutely no idea how they can operate and make it even remotely safe for their employees. You literally could cut their workforce 75% and you would still have trouble keeping people from infecting one another. I know it's a huge cog in the local economy but I cannot believe they are letting them reopen today.

My neighbor's wife is in the hospital with the Covid, which she caught from her husband who I'm sure got it at the plant. Someone (very reliable but I won't say who) told me that they had all their supervisors tested about a week ago and that 80% were positive.
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NEW: @GovofCO Polis starts a briefing for journalists by urging people not to misinterpret coming increase in COVID-19 deaths as a spike when it’s a reclassification or non-COVID deaths. Will thread new details from briefing here. #9News #COVID19colorado 

Polis says the “Safer at Home” phase will last through May and June will have “similarities.” 

Polis says 33k face masks from the Colorado Mask Project were delivered to people serving the homeless community. 

Polis asks Coloradans getting outside to stay within 10 miles of home. WATCH OUT, COMMERCE CITY! ILL SEE YOU SATURDAY! 

Before the outrage muppets pounce, I’m not going to Commerce City this weekend. I’m staying at home and in my neighborhood. 

Polis says he talked with VP Pence again. Says state will need to augment federal PPE shipments. Wasn’t critical of federal effort, just said the need is greater. 

 
This is a new format for briefings where it’s just Polis and a web camera. Questions from journalists are coming in via audio, like his press conferences at the mansion. Some hiccups as the Gov waits on Qs without in person reporters to call on. But going pretty smoothly. 

GJ Sentinel’s Charles Ashby says state wont be storming businesses who don’t comply with state’s orders, so how will they be enforced? Polis says local buy-in is key (Mayors, Police Depts, Health Depts) because they will be the enforcers. 

NEW: @GovofCO Polis warns that he will take action against Weld County, which is allowing all businesses to open in defiance of state orders. “They do not have any kind of unilateral ability to jeopardize the health of residents,” Polis said. #9News #covid19colorado 

Polis says Weld County’s plan to allow restaurants to reopen would be a danger. Says counties can’t ignore state guidelines to inspect restauranra, so they can’t allow them to reopen now. 

mentions asks if there’s state guidance for employees who fear returning to work without COVID-19 precautions. Polis says telecommuting must be prioritized for at-risk people. Polis says Coloradans must balance if they can go without income. Imagine that’s a small cohort. 

NEW: @GovofCO Polis, in his strongest language yet, says Weld County “cannot” proceed with its plan to allow restaurants to open Monday. #9News #covid19colorado 

NEW: @GovofCO Polis says Colorado “absolutely will use every mechanism we have” to prevent Weld County from ignoring public health orders, including withholding funding and stripping business licenses of businesses that open in violation of state orders. #9News #COVID19Colorado 

Gov Polis praises municipalities with public mask wearing requirements. But Polis is hesitant about a statewide mask order. Perhaps because it’s clear that if he were to mandate breathing, some Coloradans would choose to asphyxiate in protest of tyranny. #9News #COVID19colorado 

That concludes the briefing and this thread. But outrage is welcome to continue in the replies. Be well. 

 
Well, it's about par for the course....Coffee is hot, etc.

But to be fair, there really is probably only one American who needed to be told this....and maybe a few of his supporters. The couple who ingested the aquarium chemical come to mind.

 
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4783265/

Just to be contrarian, I'm seeing this floated around.  Injecting blood "disinfected" by UV light has been used in the past.  Reading the conclusion of that link there are obviously risks involved but more research is called for.  Of course if this is what Trump meant he should have said so. But the media will also not point this alternative treatment out and will run with the Lysol angle so idiots will try it and injure themselves  :dumdum  Darwinism and all that (also note the people who ingested fish tank cleaner aren't Trump supporters).

 
HuskersNC949597 said:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4783265/

Just to be contrarian, I'm seeing this floated around.  Injecting blood "disinfected" by UV light has been used in the past.  Reading the conclusion of that link there are obviously risks involved but more research is called for.  Of course if this is what Trump meant he should have said so. But the media will also not point this alternative treatment out and will run with the Lysol angle so idiots will try it and injure themselves  :dumdum  Darwinism and all that (also note the people who ingested fish tank cleaner aren't Trump supporters).
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You’re blaming the media for people reacting to Trump saying injecting disinfectant is something we should look into. Just listen to yourself. This is asinine.

He also referred to it as “cleaning.” He wasn’t talking about blood nor does it really matter if he was (he wasn’t).  If it’s worth researching the scientists will figure that out. Trump should shut the f#&% up about things he knows nothing about, stop floating moronic ideas that pop into his head, and let the scientists do the research. Then when they give him information that should be shared he can do that. What he’s doing is imbecilic and you should not be defending it. 

 
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Moiraine said:
You’re blaming the media for people reacting to Trump saying injecting disinfectant is something we should look into. Just listen to yourself. This is asinine.

He also referred to it as “cleaning.” He wasn’t talking about blood nor does it really matter if he was (he wasn’t).  If it’s worth researching the scientists will figure that out. Trump should shut the f#&% up about things he knows nothing about, stop floating moronic ideas that pop into his head, and let the scientists do the research. Then when they give him information that should be shared he can do that. What he’s doing is imbecilic and you should not be defending it. 
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Yeah, I say why not both? "We thought if anything it would help us ‘cus that's what we've been hearing on the news." The lady's own words.

Toilet paper hoarding was never recommended by the administration, yet: “It might seem weird that people would hoard toilet paper because toilet paper is not going to prevent you from getting infected. I think what’s happening is this is going viral with images of people panic-buying toilet paper."

Yes the media can make things worse. Human psychology is weird like that...

 
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That is both a true and carefully worded statement. It is an important reminder to the ‘immunity passport’ crowd. It also should be mentioned that acute viral exposure that produces antibodies historically means that the recovered person has at least temporary immunity from another infection, assuming the strain hasn’t mutated significantly. 
 

Fauci is exercising restraint and caution as much as anyone:
 

“sometimes you have to act on a historical basis,” Anthony Fauci, the head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said in a webcast with JAMA this month. “It’s a reasonable assumption that this virus is not changing very much. If we get infected now and it comes back next February or March we think this person is going to be protected.”

 
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