The P&R Plague Thread (Covid-19)

[B.B. Hemingway]

So everything is a conspiracy against Republicans, and they didn't consult healthcare officials.  Cool. 

Nah. You don't get to excuse this kind of blatant political posturing away as right wing theories.... And get out of here with the "whataboutisms", I never said it excused the Trump administrations clear incompetence.

 

[knapplc]

Nah. You don't get to excuse this kind of blatant political posturing away as right wing theories.... And get out of here with the "whataboutisms", I never said it excused the Trump administrations clear incompetence.

It's based on hospitalization numbers, which don't give a damn about politics. 

The governor announced the regional stay-at-home orders on Dec. 3 in an effort to reduce the strain on hospitals as case numbers surged. While state data show hospital systems in Southern California and the San Joaquin Valley remain strained, the Newsom administration told officials Sunday that models project ICU capacity in those areas will exceed 15% — a threshold for lifting the regional shutdowns — over the next four weeks.

LINK

 

[B.B. Hemingway]

It's based on hospitalization numbers, which don't give a damn about politics. 

LINK

All it took was the swearing in of Joe Biden to turn COVID on its head.  :facepalm:

 

[knapplc]

All it took was the swearing in of Joe Biden to turn COVID on its head.  :facepalm:

Yep. It's all politics, and has nothing to do with real-world numbers or anything.

 

[B.B. Hemingway]

Yep. It's all politics, and has nothing to do with real-world numbers or anything.

Numbers that improved dramatically over the last 4 days, apparently, despite them telling us how catastrophic everything is out of the other side of their mouths.

 

[knapplc]

Numbers that improved dramatically over the last 4 days, apparently, despite them telling us how catastrophic everything is out of the other side of their mouths.

It's a conspiracy. It's an outrage! 

 

[B.B. Hemingway]

* Knapp when he hits send *

 

[knapplc]

* Knapp when he hits send *

Or we could stop with the personal attacks and leave this stuff in the shed... 

 

[B.B. Hemingway]

Or we could stop with the personal attacks and leave this stuff in the shed... 

Deal. 

 

[Archy1221]

Yep. It's all politics, and has nothing to do with real-world numbers or anything.

Correct

 

[Archy1221]

It's based on hospitalization numbers, which don't give a damn about politics. 

LINK

ICU capacity is what now??  And how does that compare to the threshold when the order took place?  

 

[Archy1221]

Yep. It's all politics, and has nothing to do with real-world numbers or anything.

@B.B. Hemingway

 

[knapplc]

@B.B. Hemingway

Which part of "The Governor’s office is apparently basing this decision off of four-week ICU projections — which are not public" is confusing you?

 

[Archy1221]

Which part of "The Governor’s office is apparently basing this decision off of four-week ICU projections — which are not public" is confusing you?

Kinda the whole quote.  Using non public numbers to unilaterally open or close someone’s livelihood because CA leaders say it’s too confusing for the public to understand.   Current numbers are above the threshold when order took place.  Ya that part.  

 

[knapplc]

Kinda the whole quote.  Using non public numbers to unilaterally open or close someone’s livelihood because CA leaders say it’s too confusing for the public to understand.   Current numbers are above the threshold when order took place.  Ya that part.  

Does this outrage start and end with California's governor, or with all governors who closed restaurants?