The only “nuance” was March April into May. Beyond that, any hint of lockdowns we’re not needed. We all knew what we were dealing with at that point and people could make informed decisions on their own of how risk averse they wanted to be.
The P&R Plague Thread (Covid-19)
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BigRedBuster
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NO.....there's also nuances of when vaccines were available. Nuances of population density. Nuances of population density combined with infection rates. Nuances of healthcare system overload. Nuances of certain facilities which contain high risk populations. Nuances of industries that work with those high risk populations....and on and on and on.
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Ummm No. once the country essentially knew what we were dealing with, mainly from European data, people could make informed decisions. State lockdowns and mandates were not needed.
For those who laugh, what state needed a lockdown after May? Tell me the “nuance” needed to make that decision.
Scarlet
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The level of revisionist history here hurts here sometimes.
We weren't dealing with Delta or Omicron and their levels of virulence and contagiousness at that time. It wasn't considered airborne at that time The virus has mutated such that to say we knew what we were dealing with before these mutations arrived in the scene is really out there.
Vaccines weren't developed yet. We weren't able to fully open up until they were unless, I guess if you think 3 or 4 million US death would have been cool. Treatments like paxlovid weren't available. Ventilators we're considered essential but turns out they may have caused more harm than good in some cases. Hand sanitizer was impossible to get because it was thought that spread by contact was a significant risk. We still have essentially no clue what's going on with Long Covid and how to treat or prevent it. Nobody talks about it but that's going to be a drain on our health care system for years or decades to come. And it doesn't just affect the old.
Besides a good portion of the public still doesn't understand what it's dealing with as seen by the anti-vaxxer/anti-masker campaign and how many people regurgitate that as fact.
How many times did we hear "it's just a cold", "eat Ivermectin", "hydroxychloroquine", "inject bleach", "shove a fluorescent tube up your a$$", "Fauci did it", or that Omicron was going to be the savior because it was going to be a milder way to usher in herd immunity? Remember herd immunity? Yeah, we knew what we were dealing with in May 2020
We weren't dealing with Delta or Omicron and their levels of virulence and contagiousness at that time. It wasn't considered airborne at that time The virus has mutated such that to say we knew what we were dealing with before these mutations arrived in the scene is really out there.
Vaccines weren't developed yet. We weren't able to fully open up until they were unless, I guess if you think 3 or 4 million US death would have been cool. Treatments like paxlovid weren't available. Ventilators we're considered essential but turns out they may have caused more harm than good in some cases. Hand sanitizer was impossible to get because it was thought that spread by contact was a significant risk. We still have essentially no clue what's going on with Long Covid and how to treat or prevent it. Nobody talks about it but that's going to be a drain on our health care system for years or decades to come. And it doesn't just affect the old.
Besides a good portion of the public still doesn't understand what it's dealing with as seen by the anti-vaxxer/anti-masker campaign and how many people regurgitate that as fact.
How many times did we hear "it's just a cold", "eat Ivermectin", "hydroxychloroquine", "inject bleach", "shove a fluorescent tube up your a$$", "Fauci did it", or that Omicron was going to be the savior because it was going to be a milder way to usher in herd immunity? Remember herd immunity? Yeah, we knew what we were dealing with in May 2020
Jason Sitoke
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Are we just trying to get the page count up?
Scarlet
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It’s quite easy to tell the bias in the research by the header in the table. DeSantis NEVER banned “local precautions”. People could freely choose to wear masks anytime they wanted. People could freely choose to get vaccinated if they were eligible based on FDA approval.
Next, why go with May 2021 as a starter? Also why not stratify by the age group, you know the #1 risk factor for Covid death
Scarlet
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Ok where's Maine, where's New Hampshire, where's Vermont, where's Connecticut, where's Delaware on that list? All states with older average age or close to the same as Florida, you know. Maybe a leader should consider his constituents age :dunno
A leader that won re election by a whopping 19 points in a swing state. Seems the people of that state approve of how he’s handled things.
If you want to compare Vermont, Deleware, and Maine to Florida have at it :lol:
Scarlet
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Does this mean we have moved past the “banned” portion of your post and just pretend it doesn’t exist? Or the curious timeline? Or the age issue?