The TDS Callout Thread

[Enhance]

And that means that anyone who supports Trump is either racist themselves, or they are willing to tolerate his brand of racism and divisiveness for whatever reason. 

This is where I tend to think quite a lot of Trump supporters find themselves so I can't say it any better than that myself.

I don't generally like dealing in absolutes. I think there are a lot of Trump supporters who are simply ignorant and/or willing to tolerate his brand of divisiveness because it fits whatever narrative or perspective they choose to hold. I don't know if I'd label a lot of the Trump supporters I know as objectively "racist." I know for a fact some of them are. Others... I think they're operating and living in a world where they don't believe they're racist, but may perhaps be blind or naive to why certain perspectives they hold are, in fact, racist.

 

[Ulty]

Others... I think they're operating and living in a world where they don't believe they're racist, but may perhaps be blind or naive to why certain perspectives they hold are, in fact, racist.

One of the complicating factors of racism is that very few people acknowledge that they are racist, or even if they are self-aware of their racism they will never admit it.

I conduct discrimination claims for a living and have talked to many people who are certainly racist, or at the very least they have committed actions that negatively impact others based on race, but no one has ever admitted to me that they are racist. I've talked to KKK members, and they say they are not racist ("it's not the color of their skin, it's their f#&%ing attitude" is a quote that will forever be burned in my memory). I don't even ask people if they are racist or not, the verbal answer is meaningless. We have to take a deeper dive into their words, actions, and attitudes. 

Something we all need to acknowledge is that everyone has their own biases, sometimes we are aware of them, sometimes we aren't. If we have biases against others because of race or ethnicity, it is very difficult to come to terms with, but if those biases manifest themselves in ugly actions that others can see...

 

[GSG]

I've talked to KKK members, and they say they are not racist ("it's not the color of their skin, it's their f#&%ing attitude" is a quote that will forever be burned in my memory).

 

[Ulty]

Be a decent human being, shut the f#&% up for once.

 

[Mierin]

Is my Caucasian friend (one of my eleven probably) who votes Republican every year racist?  Even though he married a Hispanic woman and adopted her little girl.  Is he racist?

This is a bit of a sidebar, but I know two people who seem to use the fact they have non-White relatives as an excuse to be more outspoken in their racism. They use it as a shield. "I'm married to someone who isn't White, so I can't be racist." They likely don't think they are racist because of the relationship, so they think whatever pops into their head can't possibly be racist.

 

[Ulty]

Oh, and there was another one who tried to explain the difference between (n*words) and black people who did not act like (n*words). He was totally serious and did not think that he was racist. That guy had black friends, too.

 

[GSG]

Oh, and there was another one who tried to explain the difference between (n*words) and black people who did not act like (n*words). He was totally serious and did not think that he was racist. That guy had black friends, too.

Guarantee he doesn't say that shit to his black friends 

 

[Cdog923]

Oh, and there was another one who tried to explain the difference between (n*words) and black people who did not act like (n*words). He was totally serious and did not think that he was racist. That guy had black friends, too.

...he didn't quote the Chris Rock joke, did he?

 

[Cdog923]

 

[ZRod]

Well this didn't take long.

 

[RedDenver]

Well this didn't take long.

 

[JJ Husker]

IDK, I still think TDS is a real thing because I’ve acquired a severe case of it. I hate that çoćksucker and everything he does or stands for. TDS doesn’t have to have a negative connotation. Anybody that pays attention to what he does should have a healthy case of it.

 

[Mierin]

IDK, I still think TDS is a real thing because I’ve acquired a severe case of it. I hate that çoćksucker and everything he does or stands for. TDS doesn’t have to have a negative connotation. Anybody that pays attention to what he does should have a healthy case of it.

Ya, this is the main thing that makes the phrase stupid. There are a lot of s#!tty things going on directly caused by or initiated by Trump. If you aren't pissed off about them or don't at least understand why someone should be pissed off about them, you're nuts. 9 times out of 10 (and that's probably an underestimate), the things people are pissed off at Trump about are things they should actually be pissed off at Trump about.

And to speak more in general, people don't understand what the f#&% bias is. It doesn't mean if there are 2 politicians they have the same % of negative stories about them. I'm using this as an example not to compare these people to anyone but so even a dumbs#!t can understand: if Hitler were to run against Gandhi, and we all knew everything about them, there would be more negative stories about Hitler than about Gandhi. No bias would be necessary for that to be the case. Trump gets a lot of negative stories because he brings them on himself by being terrible. If 70% of the stories about Trump are negative and 50% of the stories about Obama were negative, that would probably be fairly unbiased.

 

[JJ Husker]

Ya, this is the main thing that makes the phrase stupid. There are a lot of s#!tty things going on directly caused by or initiated by Trump. If you aren't pissed off about them or don't at least understand why someone should be pissed off about them, you're nuts. 9 times out of 10 (and that's probably an underestimate), the things people are pissed off at Trump about are things they should actually be pissed off at Trump about.

And to speak more in general, people don't understand what the f#&% bias is. It doesn't mean if there are 2 politicians they have the same % of negative stories about them. I'm using this as an example not to compare these people to anyone but so even a dumbs#!t can understand: if Hitler were to run against Gandhi, and we all knew everything about them, there would be more negative stories about Hitler than about Gandhi. No bias would be necessary for that to be the case. Trump gets a lot of negative stories because he brings them on himself by being terrible. If 70% of the stories about Trump are negative and 50% of the stories about Obama were negative, that would probably be fairly unbiased.

Yep. There are very good reasons so many won’t give him the benefit of the doubt and expect the worst in all situations. He has more than earned that. Derangement is a misleading word for it but functionally it’s about the same.

 

[Guy Chamberlin]

Let's be clear about Trump Derangement Syndrome.

It starts with the fact that the President of the United States is deranged in dazzling, unprecedented and mind-numbing ways that embarrass the nation and put life on Earth at risk. 

Actually, that's the only fact you need.

If you're not appalled, you're the problem.