What did we learn Indiana edition

Undone said:
I think this might be a good summary of what happened in this game:

  • The staff came into this one underestimating just how inept our running game was, especially with Dowdell as the starting back.
  • The staff also came into the game not understanding how easily Indiana could drop dimes over our corners if we didn't get good pressure on their QB.
  • We made an adjustment to our offensive strategy & play calling and attacked the perimeter and got on the board, almost making it look easy on that drive.
  • After that point our defense just entirely fell apart and there was basically no coming back on offense.

Our staff just looks bad from this result, like really bad. We weren't competitive at all, and it made us look like we're not competitive whatsoever with the top half of the conference in any way.
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Good summary and outlines the gross negligence or incompetence the coaching staff seems to have when facing quality teams.   Colorado being the lone exception over the 1 1/2 years.   
 

whether that incompetence is the HC or the Assistants remains to be seen, but it’s on the HC to have foresight and not let things fester for 3 or 4 years before he is on the hot seat and then finally decides to change up the staff to save his job.  

 
Undone said:
I think this might be a good summary of what happened in this game:

  • The staff came into this one underestimating just how inept our running game was, especially with Dowdell as the starting back.
  • The staff also came into the game not understanding how easily Indiana could drop dimes over our corners if we didn't get good pressure on their QB.
  • We made an adjustment to our offensive strategy & play calling and attacked the perimeter and got on the board, almost making it look easy on that drive.
  • After that point our defense just entirely fell apart and there was basically no coming back on offense.

Our staff just looks bad from this result, like really bad. We weren't competitive at all, and it made us look like we're not competitive whatsoever with the top half of the conference in any way.
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If our D doesn’t get to QB, we are trash.  It’s that simple.  We can’t really stop the run either.  Still not sure why Rutgers stopped running a few weeks ago.

 
In a few hours it will be 24 hours post thrashing and my self imposed whine period will be over. 
 

GBR! And go Yanks! 

agentbills2207 said:
Hey guys just popping in to see how everyone is doing after we shoved your s#!t into your spinal cord and gave you sepsis hope you can recover thanks see ya later. 
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How about them Indians/Guardians! Rolled over in 5 

 
Archy1221 said:
I agree.   However, he doesnt seem like he has any urgency as a HC of P4 program that until 2003/4 was a powerhouse.  
 

There just doesn’t seem to be ANY accountability in this program.  With each HC it’s always, trust the process/we need 3-4 years and we will get there/mistakes will happen but we will clean them up (as all the same players and all the same coaches who made those mistakes continue on….) 
 

How about some consequences for individual poor play, continual mental mistakes, or continual positional bad play!
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I'm sick of the "slow rebuild BS".  He brought in guys that he should have ie Satt, McGuire and we are seeing the results,  We got the sh!t kicked out of us yesterday....D just folded.  had no answers.  Against Indiana, the lights were too bright. For the team and staff.  I'd let Satt go today.  And Doogie Howser.    At least give the fans something to be  happy about.

 
Undone said:
I think this might be a good summary of what happened in this game:

  • The staff came into this one underestimating just how inept our running game was, especially with Dowdell as the starting back.
  • The staff also came into the game not understanding how easily Indiana could drop dimes over our corners if we didn't get good pressure on their QB.
  • We made an adjustment to our offensive strategy & play calling and attacked the perimeter and got on the board, almost making it look easy on that drive.
  • After that point our defense just entirely fell apart and there was basically no coming back on offense.

Our staff just looks bad from this result, like really bad. We weren't competitive at all, and it made us look like we're not competitive whatsoever with the top half of the conference in any way.
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I think this is who we are tbh. Maybe Rhule has the chops to win, but he assembled a below average supporting cast of coaches.  I'll support Rhule next year. Unless he brings back this staff intact.  

 
lo country said:
I think this is who we are tbh. Maybe Rhule has the chops to win, but he assembled a below average supporting cast of coaches.  I'll support Rhule next year. Unless he brings back this staff intact.  
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Yeah. It was spread around that Satterfield had bad YPC rushing stats in 2022 at South Carolina.

I just don't get how we slumped to this place in the run game.

 
Undone said:
I think this might be a good summary of what happened in this game:

  • The staff came into this one underestimating just how inept our running game was, especially with Dowdell as the starting back.
  • The staff also came into the game not understanding how easily Indiana could drop dimes over our corners if we didn't get good pressure on their QB.
  • We made an adjustment to our offensive strategy & play calling and attacked the perimeter and got on the board, almost making it look easy on that drive.
  • After that point our defense just entirely fell apart and there was basically no coming back on offense.

Our staff just looks bad from this result, like really bad. We weren't competitive at all, and it made us look like we're not competitive whatsoever with the top half of the conference in any way.
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At the risk of being dramatic, that's why this game will test the culture Rhule has spent his tenure building.  Players know.  You can demand a lot, but buy-in requires results to solidify confidence.  This was a confidence shaker that's going to require a counter balance.

ON THE BRIGHT SIDE:  I thought that was the first time Thomas Fidone looked like the player NU recruited.  

 
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Sitting on it a day later, the press conference from Rhule was as bad as any moment of the actual game.  Rhule basically stated he thought we were ready, didn't expect this, and did not know what happened.  You know who that sounded like?  Scott Frost.

We can look at individuals on the Staff.  We can look at schemes.  We can look at player results.  But, at some point the Head Coach has to know what is wrong and how to fix it...or he becomes the problem.

I'm not saying fire Rhule.  But, the best I've seen it in their respective sports, players and coaches, are maniacal about the details and analysis, not just from the immediate game, but from even years prior.  They learn from it.  They get better.  It drives them.  Frost might have been the worst at it - "I mean, Siiiipp, I just don't know.  *Facial contortions and silence* I may have to watch the film..."   We'll see if this is Matt Rhule.  His history against top 25 isn't great, but those were also big rebuilds.  "I didn't see that coming" type stuff just won't cut it.  

The level of recruits still in play are well beyond the results.  I think we end up with coaches that can sell and boosters that can pay.  But, can anyone actually coach?  Watch film, teach a better way, identify different talent, develop it, find schemes that work against an opponent?  At some small modicum above zero? 

 
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