Who should our next HC be?

[thexyz]

My understanding is he gets around $8.85 million per year from the Panthers (7 year, $62M contract). He already got that for year 1 and 2 when he was coaching and he'll get it from them for the rest of this season. So, the Panthers are out around $26.55M of the $62M no matter what. But he's still owed the rest of the contract no matter what, so roughly $35.45M. After this year, whatever his new deal is with his new team will go against the balance. So essentially, he's getting paid $8.85 per year for the next 4 years no matter what. The only question is where it comes from. If we hired him and pay him $7M per year, the Panthers pay him the other $1.85M for the next 4 years. If we hired him and pay him $9M, the Panthers are off the hook. The Panthers really want him to return to coaching a demand a really high price tag.

That sounds pretty accurate. 

 

[The Scarlet Pimpernel]

The article I posted says he'll be paid $40 mil over 48 months (4 years) -- 10-mil/year.

 

[PasstheDamnBallGuy]

I hope coach X is not Maryland's Locksley.  I heard that over 4 weeks ago and posted as such.  Campbell was the "guy" late last season and it appeared we may have had a soft verbal- but stayed with SF.  What makes me nervous is how quiet it is down there from my sources (they are not the ones that said Locksley) and I have been told we already have our person- and blessed by Mickey.  Time will tell and we will see.  Either way- everyone says trust Trev and the decision he makes.

I actually wouldn't hate Locksley if he gets a good staff. He wouldn't be my first choice, but he can put up points on offense and man can he recruit.

If it is someone locked in already I think the two choices that are realistic for us to land this early and that would be home runs for me are Whittingham and Malzahn. 

 

[Red Silk Smoking Jacket]

https://athlonsports.com/nfl/heres-how-much-money-panthers-still-have-to-pay-matt-rhule

We'd likely have too offer $10-mil/yr. to get him to consider.

I don't think it really matters because whatever that number is, he's getting it either way.

 

[The Scarlet Pimpernel]

I don't think it really matters because whatever that number is, he's getting it either way.

The difference is that he can either A) get it from from the Panthers for doing absolutely nothing; or B) get it from us for coaching and all that entails. What would you do?

 

[huskerpower22]

The difference is that he can either A) get it from from the Panthers for doing absolutely nothing; or B) get it from us for coaching and all that entails. What would you do?

For that amount of money I would be sipping margaritas by an ocean for eternity :&gt

 

[Red Silk Smoking Jacket]

The difference is that he can either A) get it from from the Panthers for doing absolutely nothing; or B) get it from us for coaching and all that entails. What would you do?

I'd be drinking a Carib on a beach in St Barth for for the rest of my life. I was just assuming he'd want to coach again.

 

[Red Silk Smoking Jacket]

For that amount of money I would be sipping margaritas by an ocean for eternity :&gt

Yeah, maybe there's a reason we're all nothing more than a bunch of keyboard coaches  :lol:

 

[thexyz]

Yeah, maybe there's a reason we're all nothing more than a bunch of keyboard coaches  :lol:

I’m already seeing double and I haven’t even started drinking yet! 

 

[thexyz]

I don't think it really matters because whatever that number is, he's getting it either way.

I’d doubt that we’re going to shell out $10M for Rhule to start. There’s added value with hiring him as opposed to other options. 
 

We aren’t paying a buyout. We’d potentially be gaining $3-4M a year that could be used toward assistants. Initially. Or, $12-16M over the course of four years. With respect to what he’s owed from the Carolina Panthers.
 

Instead of cost, it’s a hidden asset. Carolina is essentially helping bolster our assistant budget or, offsetting the cost of Frost’s dismissal.

I don’t think we’re hiring under $6M and I doubt it’s much over $8M maximum. 

 

[TiredHuskerFanMWI]

FBS+NFL winning percentages of various coaches in ascending order of coaches in the rumor mill with several added by me:

Matt Rhule - 45.3%

Lance Leipold - 50%

Dave Clawson - 52.4%

Bill O'Brien - 53.1%

Mark Stoops - 53.4%

Hugh Freeze - 57.6%

Dave Aranda - 58.6%

Matt Campbell - 60.6%

Lane Kiffen - 60.8%

Bronco Mendenhall - 62.5%

Dan Mullen - 62.8%

Dave Doeren - 63%

Clay Helton - 64.5%

Jamie Chadwell - 65.5%

David Shaw - 65.7%

Kyle Whittingham - 67.1%

Gus Malzahn - 67.9%

Luke Fickell - 72%

Chris Petersen - 79.5%

Urban Meyer - 81.5%

It's inexcusable for Trev not to be courting Meyer/Petersen, with Fickell as the 3rd option.  The fact that he's obsessed with sub 60 coaches makes me assume Trev is Eichorst in an Alberts mask.  I won't believe anything else until proven wrong by Trev and only Trev.

 

[Stone Cold]

FBS+NFL winning percentages of various coaches in ascending order of coaches in the rumor mill with several added by me:

Matt Rhule - 45.3%

Lance Leipold - 50%

Dave Clawson - 52.4%

Bill O'Brien - 53.1%

Mark Stoops - 53.4%

Hugh Freeze - 57.6%

Dave Aranda - 58.6%

Matt Campbell - 60.6%

Lane Kiffen - 60.8%

Bronco Mendenhall - 62.5%

Dan Mullen - 62.8%

Dave Doeren - 63%

Clay Helton - 64.5%

Jamie Chadwell - 65.5%

David Shaw - 65.7%

Kyle Whittingham - 67.1%

Gus Malzahn - 67.9%

Luke Fickell - 72%

Chris Petersen - 79.5%

Urban Meyer - 81.5%

It's inexcusable for Trev not to be courting Meyer/Petersen, with Fickell as the 3rd option.  The fact that he's obsessed with sub 60 coaches makes me assume Trev is Eichorst in an Alberts mask.  I won't believe anything else until proven wrong by Trev and only Trev.

I agree with your assessment on the coaches, but what makes you think hes only looking at the sub 60s

 

[Red Silk Smoking Jacket]

I’d doubt that we’re going to shell out $10M for Rhule to start. There’s added value with hiring him as opposed to other options. 
 

We aren’t paying a buyout. We’d potentially be gaining $3-4M a year that could be used toward assistants. Initially. Or, $12-16M over the course of four years. With respect to what he’s owed from the Carolina Panthers.
 

Instead of cost, it’s a hidden asset. Carolina is essentially helping bolster our assistant budget or, offsetting the cost of Frost’s dismissal.

I don’t think we’re hiring under $6M and I doubt it’s much over $8M maximum. 

Good point. Funny...my top 3 choices have (essentially) no buyout. And I'm in the "we need to spend whatever it takes to get the right guy" camp. My top 3 choices are also all already set for life financially, so, there's that.

 

[Red Silk Smoking Jacket]

It's inexcusable for Trev not to be courting Meyer/Petersen, with Fickell as the 3rd option.

How do you know he's not?

The fact that he's obsessed with sub 60 coaches makes me assume Trev is Eichorst in an Alberts mask.

How do you know he is?

 

[Ulty]

FBS+NFL winning percentages of various coaches in ascending order of coaches in the rumor mill with several added by me:

Matt Rhule - 45.3%

Lance Leipold - 50%

Dave Clawson - 52.4%

Bill O'Brien - 53.1%

Mark Stoops - 53.4%

Hugh Freeze - 57.6%

Dave Aranda - 58.6%

Matt Campbell - 60.6%

Lane Kiffen - 60.8%

Bronco Mendenhall - 62.5%

Dan Mullen - 62.8%

Dave Doeren - 63%

Clay Helton - 64.5%

Jamie Chadwell - 65.5%

David Shaw - 65.7%

Kyle Whittingham - 67.1%

Gus Malzahn - 67.9%

Luke Fickell - 72%

Chris Petersen - 79.5%

Urban Meyer - 81.5%

It's inexcusable for Trev not to be courting Meyer/Petersen, with Fickell as the 3rd option.  The fact that he's obsessed with sub 60 coaches makes me assume Trev is Eichorst in an Alberts mask.  I won't believe anything else until proven wrong by Trev and only Trev.