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Why can't we go back to the good old days of if your phone goes off during class the teacher gets to talk to the caller or read the text. Or if you pull it out of your pocket it's locked up in their desk for class, you do it a8and it's locked up for the day. School board policy so no parent can target a specific teach.

 
ZRod said:
Why can't we go back to the good old days of if your phone goes off during class the teacher gets to talk to the caller or read the text. Or if you pull it out of your pocket it's locked up in their desk for class, you do it a8and it's locked up for the day. School board policy so no parent can target a specific teach.
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Sadly, because parents are insane.  

"You can't take my child's phone, you don't pay for that phone"

Not all parents of course, most are normal.  But it only takes a few of the crazy ones to ruin it.

They do mean well, even the crazy ones.  But some of them just really don't get it.

Wait until you hear stories about calling home because of bad behavior only to be told "Well that is your problem when he/she is at school, not my problem"

 
teachercd said:
Sadly, because parents are insane.  

"You can't take my child's phone, you don't pay for that phone"

Not all parents of course, most are normal.  But it only takes a few of the crazy ones to ruin it.

They do mean well, even the crazy ones.  But some of them just really don't get it.

Wait until you hear stories about calling home because of bad behavior only to be told "Well that is your problem when he/she is at school, not my problem"
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Pretty sure teachers are covered by locos prantis ( or pollo loco, however it's spelled). It's up to the administration/district to grow a pair and protect you guys. Also, the sane parents need to speak out more and make the boards come to their senses.

Kids need guidelines and discipline. It's their job to push boundaries and the adults jobs to rein them in and teach them why it matters. I know when we were in school we were a bunch of a$$h@!es, but we respected any teacher who could converse with us and tell us why something was important and not just take our s#!t.

 
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ZRod said:
Pretty sure teachers are covered by locos prantis ( or pollo loco, however it's spelled). It's up to the administration/district to grow a pair and protect you guys. Also, the sane parents need to speak out more and make the boards come to their senses.

Kids need guidelines and discipline. It's their job to push boundaries and the adults jobs to rein them in and teach them why it matters. I know when we were in school we were a bunch of a$$h@!es, but we respected any teacher who could converse with us and tell us why something was important and not just take our s#!t.
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Hey man, I agree.

 
So Profs were also doing things like this

1.  Explain how the US get involved in WWII (then in white text they would type something like "tell me about dragons")

Well, a lot of students just copy and paste it into an AI platform and never even notice the part of dragons since it did not show up all that well.

Now, you have to really not be paying attention to fall for it but it seems to be something that happens.  

 
teachercd said:
Sadly, because parents are insane.  

"You can't take my child's phone, you don't pay for that phone"

Not all parents of course, most are normal.  But it only takes a few of the crazy ones to ruin it.

They do mean well, even the crazy ones.  But some of them just really don't get it.

Wait until you hear stories about calling home because of bad behavior only to be told "Well that is your problem when he/she is at school, not my problem"
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Not that many years ago I had an employee complaining about the school and teachers because….his son sneaked out of school and went off campus during the school day and then got in trouble for it. His (the parent) POV was that if leaving school grounds wasn’t allowed then the teachers were responsible for letting it happen. He didn’t much appreciate it when I told him that it was his (the parent) job to jerk the slack out of his kid and the teachers weren’t responsible and couldn’t physically restrain him or lock him in. He quickly quit b!^@hing to me about it when he got zero sympathy.

 
JJ Husker said:
Not that many years ago I had an employee complaining about the school and teachers because….his son sneaked out of school and went off campus during the school day and then got in trouble for it. His (the parent) POV was that if leaving school grounds wasn’t allowed then the teachers were responsible for letting it happen. He didn’t much appreciate it when I told him that it was his (the parent) job to jerk the slack out of his kid and the teachers weren’t responsible and couldn’t physically restrain him or lock him in. He quickly quit b!^@hing to me about it when he got zero sympathy.
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Thank you!!!

 
funhusker said:
Thank you!!!
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No need to thank me. Having two kids progress through 12+ years in public schools, I got to witness all the poor parenting I could take. My kids weren’t perfect but I could sure see what challenges the schools and teachers faced everyday.

We only ran across one subpar teacher (1st or 2nd grade?) in all that time. She was sort of a one year rental and just didn’t have the patience to deal with that age group. We didn’t have any problem with her but there were a couple kids in class she couldn’t deal with…maybe understandably because the one kid was a handful. Ran across a couple power crazy principals that wanted to make sure everyone knew they were in charge but it just wasn’t needed as, for the most part, the parents and kids were pretty darned decent. Unfortunately they came to our school from worse situations and didn’t seem to realize they could take it a bit easier.

 
Archy1221 said:
Hold on…..she said a state can’t pick up the tab to educate its students?   What did they do prior to establishment of the Department of Education?   Did they not educated the students in that state?  
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Well, the original department of education was established in:

https://www.ed.gov/about/ed-overview/federal-role-in-education#:~:text=The original Department of Education,States establish effective school systems.

The original Department of Education was created in 1867 to collect information on schools and teaching that would help the States establish effective school systems. While the agency's name and location within the Executive Branch have changed over the past 130 years, this early emphasis on getting information on what works in education to teachers and education policymakers continues down to the present day.
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  Do you think the cost per student has increased slightly since then?

or, are you suggesting we just go back to educating how we did in 1867?

 
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