Gun Control

BigRedBuster said:
saunders45 said:
Hooked on Huskers said:
BigRedBuster said:
...... I hope we can find a solution that drastically cuts back on the mass shootings.......
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I assume mass shootings means assault rifles ?? If so, I prefer eliminate all including past assault rifle(s) owners. If caught, mandatory 5 years jail time with no parole ...... don't matter "abiding citizens" or criminals. What's the purpose anyway ...... pound your chest ?
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You would assume wrong. An "Assault rifle" is not much different than hunting rifles that have been sold for 50+ years.

As for you last statement, because it's an excellent platform for shooting and learning. They're customizable and adjustable for various heights, body size, and skill level. There's millions in circulation in the US civilian population (not counting the stockpile the police have), and less than 0.01% are ever used in a crime.
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Agree. "Assault rifles" are the scape goat some like to run to because they look so scary.
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It's how politicians (mostly the democrats on this issue) work. Create a "boogey man" and scare the uninformed masses. It's akin to the republicans screaming "9/11" for a decade when they were trying to ram anything through.

 
The term "assault rifle" is certainly abused . . . but from a mass shooting perspective there is a grain of truth. That said it's not so much that "assault rifles" are often the weapon of choice so much as the high capacity magazines issue.

I personally hate the damn things. Not for any political reasons but because they're butt ugly and clunky.

 
carlfense said:
The term "assault rifle" is certainly abused . . . but from a mass shooting perspective there is a grain of truth. That said it's not so much that "assault rifles" are often the weapon of choice so much as the high capacity magazines issue.

I personally hate the damn things. Not for any political reasons but because they're butt ugly and clunky.
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IIRC the mass shootings (not sure where the line starts) are still like 3-1 handguns. IMO, banning AR's to stop gun crimes is like banning sports cars to stop traffic accidents.

That said, I prefer the classics, like my favorite rifle to shoot:

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saunders45 said:
IIRC the mass shootings (not sure where the line starts) are still like 3-1 handguns. IMO, banning AR's to stop gun crimes is like banning sports cars to stop traffic accidents.

That said, I prefer the classics, like my favorite rifle to shoot:

M1-garand.jpg
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If your 3-1 ratio is accurate I'd still venture a guess that it would be a higher percentage of in circulation ARs used in mass shootings than in circulation handguns used in mass shootings.

RE: the Garand, *bang* *bang* *bang* *bang* *bang* *bang* *bang* *bang* *PA-TING*

I've had to talk myself out of buying one through the CMP program several times.

 
carlfense said:
saunders45 said:
IIRC the mass shootings (not sure where the line starts) are still like 3-1 handguns. IMO, banning AR's to stop gun crimes is like banning sports cars to stop traffic accidents.

That said, I prefer the classics, like my favorite rifle to shoot:

M1-garand.jpg
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If your 3-1 ratio is accurate I'd still venture a guess that it would be a higher percentage of in circulation ARs used in mass shootings than in circulation handguns used in mass shootings.

RE: the Garand, *bang* *bang* *bang* *bang* *bang* *bang* *bang* *bang* *PA-TING*

I've had to talk myself out of buying one through the CMP program several times.
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1. True, but i suppose most of depends on the definition of "mass shooting"

2.That's where I got mine. It's an august 1942 make recevier with '44 barrell and '45 trigger assembly, and GI original wood. Great, great rifle. If you're ever going to do it, don't wait to long, or you may not get one.

 
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Junior,

Too many text boxes to directly quote. It sounds to me as though you trotted out the tired "well the constitution was written over 200 years ago and the Forefathers could not have possibly envisioned the America of today, therefore it is no longer applicable" argument. If I am mistaken, my apologies.

 
MidnightRider said:
carlfense said:
MidnightRider said:
Is the functionality of any of those 4 guns different from the others, in terms of firing rate?
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Yes. It certainly is.
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How so? We're talking mini-14 here, not the LEO/MIL AC 556.
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I'll give you the first Mini-14 on that list. Fully loaded.

I'll take the second Mini-14 on that list. Fully loaded.

Let's see who can fire off 20 rounds first. That'd be your requested difference in firing rate.

 
saunders45 said:
That's where I got mine. It's an august 1942 make recevier with '44 barrell and '45 trigger assembly, and GI original wood. Great, great rifle. If you're ever going to do it, don't wait to long, or you may not get one.
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Yeah . . . I know. Just hard to justify since I wouldn't use it for anything but plinking. I've got enough of those as it is . . . including a Springfield. Maybe I should sell that and buy a Garand instead? Hmmmm.

 
carlfense said:
MidnightRider said:
carlfense said:
MidnightRider said:
Is the functionality of any of those 4 guns different from the others, in terms of firing rate?
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Yes. It certainly is.
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How so? We're talking mini-14 here, not the LEO/MIL AC 556.
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I'll give you the first Mini-14 on that list. Fully loaded.

I'll take the second Mini-14 on that list. Fully loaded.

Let's see who can fire off 20 rounds first. That'd be your requested difference in firing rate.
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At this point, you're referring to volume of fire, not rate of fire but I'm sure you already know this.

 
carlfense said:
saunders45 said:
Hooked on Huskers said:
Dummy here ....

What's the difference between M-16 and AR-15
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? Myself, no difference.
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One is a real "assault rifle" and can shoot fully automatic. The other cannot.
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Actually, my understanding is that most M-16s in service are no longer fully automatic.
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Yeah, the A4 variant is a safe/semi/burst config. Not what the saturation on those is though.

For simplicity, it's the biggest difference between the two though.

 
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