Weird Time for Christians

BigRedBuster said:
Perfect headline.
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Perfect example of what we were talking about in the posts above.  Example when the Govt has become a church and the church has become a govt.  A bad mix.  Let the government be the government and the church the church   - Render to Cesar what is Cesar's and to God what is God's.    The entities should compliment each other but when mixed - not good. 

 
Here's a beautiful depiction of God saving Trump.

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So we go from one end with God saving the false messiah in the posts above  ^^^  to realistic, sound minded thinking below: 

https://www.newsweek.com/evangelical-leaders-call-out-danger-prophets-god-donald-trump-maga-preachers-pastors-1936620

Quotes from the beginning of the article and end of the article:   

Evangelical leaders are calling out the danger of endorsing political candidates from the pulpit as the nation witnesses a rise in pro-Trump "prophets," who claim God has anointed the former president as the chosen one.

Kimberly Reisman, executive director of World Methodist Evangelism, warned last week that doing so hurts Christians across the country. And Carl Nelson, president of Transform Minnesota, cautioned that many endorsements from church leaders fail to "hold that candidate accountable to the full spectrum of values we represent."

"God can use leaders from all parties, and to equate God's will with the will of any political party or person is exceedingly dangerous and a threat to the overall witness of Christians in the United States," Reisman said in a July 31 statement.

In recent years, a number of influential evangelical figures have come forward and spoken about receiving prophecies about former President Donald Trump as a secular messiah who will deliver conservative Christians from cultural exile. Many of them have gone viral, telling thousands and even millions of people that God will reinstate Trump in the White House, leaving their followers hanging on to promises of a second Trump term.
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The National Association of Evangelicals' May/June Evangelical Leaders Survey found that 98 percent of leaders say pastors should not endorse politicians from the pulpit, a nearly double-digit uptick since 2017. That year, 89 percent answered no when asked "Should pastors endorse politicians from the pulpit?"

"This language of spiritual warfare has gotten more and more infused into our politics," Taylor said, adding that the danger of polarizing religious discourse is that it radicalizes the right.

"If you believe that every policy dispute, every election is an arena of constant combat between good and evil, you have no motivation to ever compromise or negotiate," he said. "What negotiation is there with allies and demons?"

Taylor also expressed concern that as yet another extremely polarized election nears, this rhetoric is "at an even higher fever pitch than it was in 2020." With Trump leaning into these narratives of prophecy, he said, "we could be coming into a very harrowing season for American democracy."
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JJ Husker said:
Looks to me like he completely failed at trying to push it down and to the right. That’s what any God worth worshipping would have been trying to do.

And I did not realize that when a bullet is fired that the case goes with it  :lol:
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Someone pointed that out in the FB post where I saw it. I know nothing about bullets :P

 
It took him 4 years of studying to find out that banning abortion is bad?

What an a$$h@!e.

I hope people call him on on his social media for being a self righteous prick. 

 
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teachercd said:
It took him 4 years of studying to find out that banning abortion is bad?

What an a$$h@!e.

I hope people call him on on his social media for being a self righteous prick. 
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Teach - as a teacher you know that the process of moving from one hard position to another transformative position is a process and normally takes time.    This is especially true of long held beliefs.   When the light finally comes on for one of your students, you don't hit him over the head with the textbook because it took him so long.  You probably affirm that student and you probably feel like you accomplished something worthwhile for the day.  For example, I could use your words above and point them back to you after you 'finally came to faith in Christ' if that were to occur.  That would be self-defeating and arrogant of me to do so - being critical of you to finally come to a place where you believe as I do.    No - I would be congratulating you and celebrate the process that you went through. 

We are all on a journey.  None of us, including @teachercd has a corner on the truth.  I would think you would be congratulating the guy for becoming more moderate in his views and even adopting similar views on some of those issues as yourself.   Personally,  my journey took me away from the Tea Party years ago which kept me out of MAGA.   When MAGA implodes, I will be welcoming all former MAGAs with open arms back to the realm of normalcy.    I won't be jumping all over them because of the time it took.   Grace is to be given while we point out the errors of someone's thinking, humility is to be lived towards those on the journey knowing we are on a journey too and may have our own errors of judgments and beliefs.  Luke 15:11-32 and the story of the Prodigal Father and Prodigal Son - we see the son coming home expecting to be treated no better than a servant by his Father.  But the Father in the story didn't bring up any of his son's rebellion and sins but instead threw a party and was gracious.  The son's transformation in thinking took years, but the grace given healed those years in a second.  WE ARE ALL ON A JOURNEY. 

 
TGHusker said:
Teach - as a teacher you know that the process of moving from one hard position to another transformative position is a process and normally takes time.    This is especially true of long held beliefs.   When the light finally comes on for one of your students, you don't hit him over the head with the textbook because it took him so long.  You probably affirm that student and you probably feel like you accomplished something worthwhile for the day.  For example, I could use your words above and point them back to you after you 'finally came to faith in Christ' if that were to occur.  That would be self-defeating and arrogant of me to do so - being critical of you to finally come to a place where you believe as I do.    No - I would be congratulating you and celebrate the process that you went through. 

We are all on a journey.  None of us, including @teachercd has a corner on the truth.  I would think you would be congratulating the guy for becoming more moderate in his views and even adopting similar views on some of those issues as yourself.   Personally,  my journey took me away from the Tea Party years ago which kept me out of MAGA.   When MAGA implodes, I will be welcoming all former MAGAs with open arms back to the realm of normalcy.    I won't be jumping all over them because of the time it took.   Grace is to be given while we point out the errors of someone's thinking, humility is to be lived towards those on the journey knowing we are on a journey too and may have our own errors of judgments and beliefs.  Luke 15:11-32 and the story of the Prodigal Father and Prodigal Son - we see the son coming home expecting to be treated no better than a servant by his Father.  But the Father in the story didn't bring up any of his son's rebellion and sins but instead threw a party and was gracious.  The son's transformation in thinking took years, but the grace given healed those years in a second.  WE ARE ALL ON A JOURNEY. 
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I get it but this has nothing to do with religion or religions.  

This is about laws which don't have anything to do with faith.

That a$$h@!e did not make some journey that took him 4 years to figure out.  That a$$h@!e, I am guessing, was a Trump supporter and now isn't, so now he also has to be "for abortion" and he decided to be a d!(k about it and instead of just coming out and going

"You know what, I was wrong, abortion should be legal, I was a total prick" he tried to pretend that he spent the last four years studying it.  

I will give him props, props for being LESS of a moron now.  

 
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