What did we learn Indiana edition

Archy1221 said:
IMO That’s just not true though.   The whole point of pre snap movement is to try and get your offense into an advantage situation and create a bad matchup for the defense.   The bad match up is either getting better one on one matchups, creating a better blocking angle, and/or allowing the young QB to get a better presnap read.  Make it so the defense can’t fully adjust and match up how the Defense wants.   
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I don’t disagree with this conceptually speaking, but if 90% of the time we put Barney in motion he gets the ball behind the LOS it’s not gonna catch the defense off guard.  

Specially when they have no fear of us gaining 4-6 yards on the ground with traditional run plays 

 
gossamorharpy said:
I don’t disagree with this conceptually speaking, but if 90% of the time we put Barney in motion he gets the ball behind the LOS it’s not gonna catch the defense off guard.  

Specially when they have no fear of us gaining 4-6 yards on the ground with traditional run plays 
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I whole heartedly agree with you.   It kind of feeds into my point that the offensive staff (HC included now at this point) needs to be able to watch previous game tape, figure out what the weak link on the opposing defense is and scheme some consistent pre snap motion to allow the offense to expose that weak link or help with blocking angles since our players can’t seem to win 1 on 1 straight up blocking assignments.   
 

To your  first point above, our offense has very little creativity when it comes to motion and that falls squarely on the coaches.    If the players can’t mentally handle it and get in the correct spot…again that’s squarely on the coaches for recruiting those players or NOT being able to coach them on the finer points of football.  
 

NU is getting the very least amount possible out of this offensive group of players and it’s quite frustrating to watch.  

 
I also learned that IU fans are in denial that this coach won't bounce as soon as he's offered a job at a top program.  I told a bunch of fans that they should enjoy this year and maybe next but he's probably gone.  They didn't want to hear it.  

 
MyBloodIsRed16 said:
I also learned that IU fans are in denial that this coach won't bounce as soon as he's offered a job at a top program.  I told a bunch of fans that they should enjoy this year and maybe next but he's probably gone.  They didn't want to hear it.  
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Every fan base in denial about something. They in denial thinking he gonna be there longterm

a sizable portion of our fan base in denial thinking this offensive staff has any chance of success here. 
 

the sad part is Indiana has now had 2 seasons of something to be proud of in 4 years, across 2 completely different staffs and rosters. Something we haven’t had since 2010

 
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Maybe I’m goofy but what I learned is that Nebraska, and damn few other teams, were going to beat Indiana on this day. I don’t see how this was a coaching issue. We got our a$$ kicked plain and simple. I will give you that it appears we could’ve had a better offensive game plan and that Satterfield is suspect but Indiana played lights out and we were just ho hum (if even that).
 

Those back shoulder throws to the sidelines were mostly defended as well as a corner can. Perfect throws and an excellent receiver. Raiola had a poor game. It was bound to happen, he is a true freshman. His footwork does not appear to be where it needs to be yet. I can see where it looks like coaching but what I saw was a team simply overmatched talent wise. I can’t think of a thing we could’ve tried that would have fared any better.

I’m not convinced that what we saw signals a regression or is any proof the coaching staff is miserably failing. What I think happened is that some people felt we were coming along better than we actually are based on a few victories over some cupcakes and we ran into a real team on Saturday.

I also don’t buy the story that “if Indiana can turn it around” then why haven’t we, yet. It’s different circumstances and what Cignetti has done with Indiana is not indicative of anything Rhule has or hasn’t done yet at Nebraska. That was basically a 4th year JMU team that has had the same coaching for 4 years. Sure it’s frustrating after 20+ years but what I’ve been seeing here is frustrated takes and not anything very applicable to Nebraska’s current situation. We’ve improved in some areas, fewer than we all would like. We don’t have the horses yet to compete with some teams. And we have some glaring deficiencies, still. For example, if we could kick (and make) a simple FG, maybe the whole mojo of the game changes a bit, we put up a few more points and they put up a few less.  :dunno
 

I don’t know, I’m not ready to burn it all down and start over….yet. But yeah, that game sucked and was a bit of a surprise.

 
JJ Husker said:
Maybe I’m goofy but what I learned is that Nebraska, and damn few other teams, were going to beat Indiana on this day. I don’t see how this was a coaching issue. We got our a$$ kicked plain and simple. I will give you that it appears we could’ve had a better offensive game plan and that Satterfield is suspect but Indiana played lights out and we were just ho hum (if even that).
 

Those back shoulder throws to the sidelines were mostly defended as well as a corner can. Perfect throws and an excellent receiver. Raiola had a poor game. It was bound to happen, he is a true freshman. His footwork does not appear to be where it needs to be yet. I can see where it looks like coaching but what I saw was a team simply overmatched talent wise. I can’t think of a thing we could’ve tried that would have fared any better.

I’m not convinced that what we saw signals a regression or is any proof the coaching staff is miserably failing. What I think happened is that some people felt we were coming along better than we actually are based on a few victories over some cupcakes and we ran into a real team on Saturday.

I also don’t buy the story that “if Indiana can turn it around” then why haven’t we, yet. It’s different circumstances and what Cignetti has done with Indiana is not indicative of anything Rhule has or hasn’t done yet at Nebraska. That was basically a 4th year JMU team that has had the same coaching for 4 years. Sure it’s frustrating after 20+ years but what I’ve been seeing here is frustrated takes and not anything very applicable to Nebraska’s current situation. We’ve improved in some areas, fewer than we all would like. We don’t have the horses yet to compete with some teams. And we have some glaring deficiencies, still. For example, if we could kick (and make) a simple FG, maybe the whole mojo of the game changes a bit, we put up a few more points and they put up a few less.  :dunno
 

I don’t know, I’m not ready to burn it all down and start over….yet. But yeah, that game sucked and was a bit of a surprise.
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Thank you.  At least someone else out there can see through the madness.  (and say it much better)

 
JJ Husker said:
Maybe I’m goofy but what I learned is that Nebraska, and damn few other teams, were going to beat Indiana on this day. I don’t see how this was a coaching issue. We got our a$$ kicked plain and simple. I will give you that it appears we could’ve had a better offensive game plan and that Satterfield is suspect but Indiana played lights out and we were just ho hum (if even that).
 

Those back shoulder throws to the sidelines were mostly defended as well as a corner can. Perfect throws and an excellent receiver. Raiola had a poor game. It was bound to happen, he is a true freshman. His footwork does not appear to be where it needs to be yet. I can see where it looks like coaching but what I saw was a team simply overmatched talent wise. I can’t think of a thing we could’ve tried that would have fared any better.

I’m not convinced that what we saw signals a regression or is any proof the coaching staff is miserably failing. What I think happened is that some people felt we were coming along better than we actually are based on a few victories over some cupcakes and we ran into a real team on Saturday.

I also don’t buy the story that “if Indiana can turn it around” then why haven’t we, yet. It’s different circumstances and what Cignetti has done with Indiana is not indicative of anything Rhule has or hasn’t done yet at Nebraska. That was basically a 4th year JMU team that has had the same coaching for 4 years. Sure it’s frustrating after 20+ years but what I’ve been seeing here is frustrated takes and not anything very applicable to Nebraska’s current situation. We’ve improved in some areas, fewer than we all would like. We don’t have the horses yet to compete with some teams. And we have some glaring deficiencies, still. For example, if we could kick (and make) a simple FG, maybe the whole mojo of the game changes a bit, we put up a few more points and they put up a few less.  :dunno
 

I don’t know, I’m not ready to burn it all down and start over….yet. But yeah, that game sucked and was a bit of a surprise.
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We are averaging less per game in big 10 play than last year. We gotta expect to get better in year 2. I agree that we don’t need to burn it down and start over. But the OC MUST be looked hard at after the season. Also we gotta be careful playing the what if Game. I did that to justify the Scott Frost regime all the time. Example- man if we caught that ball, intercepted that pass, made that one block. The problem comes when year after year we keep saying the same things. 

 
Huskers93-97 said:
We are averaging less per game in big 10 play than last year. We gotta expect to get better in year 2. I agree that we don’t need to burn it down and start over. But the OC MUST be looked hard at after the season. Also we gotta be careful playing the what if Game. I did that to justify the Scott Frost regime all the time. Example- man if we caught that ball, intercepted that pass, made that one block. The problem comes when year after year we keep saying the same things. 
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It hasn't been year after year with this coaching staff.

Quick question:  Was last year's perimeter blocking better or worse than this year?  Why? How was our running game last year, versus this year?

So there is something to be said for, getting one more block, especially when our bubble screen's and running game is so dependent on perimeter blocking.

 
soup said:
It hasn't been year after year with this coaching staff.

Quick question:  Was last year's perimeter blocking better or worse than this year?  Why? How was our running game last year, versus this year?

So there is something to be said for, getting one more block, especially when our bubble screen's and running game is so dependent on perimeter blocking.
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Honestly we were not great at anything offensively last year. This year at the start we appeared to be better and more diverse but as the season has gone on and the teams have gotten better. Our offense is just as bad as last year. 
 

The thing is some guys on here think that some on here are worked up about the Indiana game. Yes that’s part of it but the warning signs were there with Purdue and Rutgers. Struggling against those 2 teams had me concerned. Then Indiana happened and Ohio state is about to happen 

 
soup said:
Thank you.  At least someone else out there can see through the madness.  (and say it much better)
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I wish I could rewatch it and see if my initial take was valid. But alas I wisely deleted that dvr copy immediately. Seriously, nobody “needs” to watch that shellacking again.

The tOSU game also won’t tell us much. I expect a similar, if not worse, result. Hopefully the team can make it through these two games without getting too mentally defeated for the remainder of the season. Obviously it is already over for some of the fans.  The key will be how we do in the winnable games following tOSU.

 
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