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Well, there are more than a few scientists who would disagree with the above posts. Either one of these listed below, have greater smarts that the collective smarts of all of us (me included) on HB and we have some real smart people on HB. If one can conclude with 100% certainty that there is no 'god', then that person must have 100% knowledge and by default they have made themselves into a self-made god.
A quick google search can bring up a list of many esteemed scientists who do not believe in myths and who do believe that religious faith and science are not in conflict.
https://www.magiscenter.com/blog/23-famous-scientists-who-believe-in-god#:~:text=In the early history of,had a deep religious faith.
A few quotes from the above link - notice the many Nobel Prize winners - and not for insignificant things but for medicine, physics, chemistry, mathematics, high energy physics, nuclear physics, etc.
1. Professor Christian Anfinsen*
(Nobel Prize for Chemistry, biochemistry of RNA, Johns Hopkins University): "I think that only an idiot can be an atheist! We must admit that there exists an incomprehensible power or force with limitless foresight and knowledge that started the whole universe going in the first place."
2. Professor Werner Archer
(Nobel Prize for Physiology/Medicine, restriction enzymes and molecular genetics, University of Basel): "I do not think our civilization has succeeded in discovering and explaining all the principles acting in the universe. I include the concept of God among these principles. I am happy to accept the concept without trying to define it precisely. I know that the concept of God helped me to master many questions in life; it guides me in critical situations and I see it confirmed in many deep insights into the beauty of the functioning of the living world."
3. Professor D.H.R. Barton***
(Nobel Prize for Chemistry, conformational analysis in organic chemistry, Texas A&M University): "God is Truth. There is no incompatibility between science and religion. Both are seeking the same truth."
4. Professor Ulrich Becker**
(High energy particle physics, MIT): "How can I exist without a creator? I am not aware of any answer ever given."
5. Professor Steven Bernasek
(Solid state chemistry, Princeton University): "I believe in the existence of God. His existence is apparent to me in everything around me, especially in my work as a scientist. On the other hand I cannot prove the existence of God the way I might prove or disprove a (scientific) hypothesis."
9. Professor Manfred Eigen
(Nobel Prize for Chemistry, fast reaction kinetics, Director Max Planck Institute for Biophysical Chemistry, Gottingen): "...religion and science neither exclude nor prove one another."
10. Professor John Fornaess*
(Mathematics, Princeton Univ.): "I believe that there is a God and that God brings structure to the universe at all levels from elementary particles to human being to superclusters of galaxies."
11. Professor P.C.C. Garnham***
(Medical protozoology, University of London): "God originated the universe or universes... At some stage in evolution when proto-humans were sufficiently advanced, God created the human soul... By faith and by appreciation of scientific necessity, God must exist."
12. Professor Conyers Herring*
(Solid state physics, Princeton University): "We live in a hard, real universe, to which we have to adapt. God is a characteristic of that universe—indeed a miraculous characteristic—that makes that adaption possible. Things such as truth, goodness, even happiness, are achievable, by virtue of a force that is always present, in the here and now and available to me personally."
15. Professor Robert Neumann*
(nuclear and isotope chemistry and physics, Princeton University): "The existence of the universe requires me to conclude that God exists."
17. Dr. Arno Penzias*
(Nobel Prize for physics for first observation of the universal microwave background radiation, Vice-President for Research, AT&T Bell Laboratories): "...by looking at the order in the world, we can infer purpose and from purpose we begin to get some knowledge of the Creator, the Planner of all this. This is, then, how I look at God. I look at God through the works of God’s hands and from those works imply intentions. From these intentions, I receive an impression of the Almighty.” (TG: Read Romans 1:19-20 since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.)
19. Professor Abdus Salam***
(Nobel Prize for physics (elementary particle theory), Director, International Centre for Theoretical Physics, Trieste): "Now this sense of wonder leads most scientists to a Superior Being—der Alte, the Old One, as Einstein affectionately called the Deity—a Superior Intelligence, the Lord of all Creation and Natural Law."
20. Professor Arthur Schawlow*
(Nobel Prize for Physics [laser physics], Stanford University): "It seems to me that when confronted with the marvels of life one must ask why and not just how. The only possible answers are religious... I find a need for God in the universe and in my own life."
21. Professor Wolfgang Smith
(Philosophy, Mathematics and Physics, Oregon State University. His theoretical work provided the key for solving the re-entry problem in space flight): "If the physics of the last century prompted atheism, the physics of today is inciting at least the most thoughtful of its votaries to re-examine 'the question of God.'"
22. Professor Charles Townes*
(Nobel Prize for physics, development of the MASER/LASER, University of California, Berkeley): "I believe in the concept of God and in His existence."
23. Professor Eugene Wigner*
(Nobel Prize for physics, applications of symmetry principles—group theory to quantum mechanics—Princeton University): "The concept of God is a wonderful one—it also helps us makes decisions in the right direction. We would be very different, I fear, if we did not have that concept."
100 eminent Christian scientists (to believe in God does not make you an uncultivated) OR BELIEVE IN MYTHS
https://www.outono.net/elentir/2017/06/20/100-eminent-christian-scientists-to-believe-in-god-does-not-make-you-an-uncultivated/
and a few more
https://www.magiscenter.com/blog/how-these-scientists-belief-in-god-helped-them-understand-nature
A quick google search can bring up a list of many esteemed scientists who do not believe in myths and who do believe that religious faith and science are not in conflict.
https://www.magiscenter.com/blog/23-famous-scientists-who-believe-in-god#:~:text=In the early history of,had a deep religious faith.
A few quotes from the above link - notice the many Nobel Prize winners - and not for insignificant things but for medicine, physics, chemistry, mathematics, high energy physics, nuclear physics, etc.
1. Professor Christian Anfinsen*
(Nobel Prize for Chemistry, biochemistry of RNA, Johns Hopkins University): "I think that only an idiot can be an atheist! We must admit that there exists an incomprehensible power or force with limitless foresight and knowledge that started the whole universe going in the first place."
2. Professor Werner Archer
(Nobel Prize for Physiology/Medicine, restriction enzymes and molecular genetics, University of Basel): "I do not think our civilization has succeeded in discovering and explaining all the principles acting in the universe. I include the concept of God among these principles. I am happy to accept the concept without trying to define it precisely. I know that the concept of God helped me to master many questions in life; it guides me in critical situations and I see it confirmed in many deep insights into the beauty of the functioning of the living world."
3. Professor D.H.R. Barton***
(Nobel Prize for Chemistry, conformational analysis in organic chemistry, Texas A&M University): "God is Truth. There is no incompatibility between science and religion. Both are seeking the same truth."
4. Professor Ulrich Becker**
(High energy particle physics, MIT): "How can I exist without a creator? I am not aware of any answer ever given."
5. Professor Steven Bernasek
(Solid state chemistry, Princeton University): "I believe in the existence of God. His existence is apparent to me in everything around me, especially in my work as a scientist. On the other hand I cannot prove the existence of God the way I might prove or disprove a (scientific) hypothesis."
9. Professor Manfred Eigen
(Nobel Prize for Chemistry, fast reaction kinetics, Director Max Planck Institute for Biophysical Chemistry, Gottingen): "...religion and science neither exclude nor prove one another."
10. Professor John Fornaess*
(Mathematics, Princeton Univ.): "I believe that there is a God and that God brings structure to the universe at all levels from elementary particles to human being to superclusters of galaxies."
11. Professor P.C.C. Garnham***
(Medical protozoology, University of London): "God originated the universe or universes... At some stage in evolution when proto-humans were sufficiently advanced, God created the human soul... By faith and by appreciation of scientific necessity, God must exist."
12. Professor Conyers Herring*
(Solid state physics, Princeton University): "We live in a hard, real universe, to which we have to adapt. God is a characteristic of that universe—indeed a miraculous characteristic—that makes that adaption possible. Things such as truth, goodness, even happiness, are achievable, by virtue of a force that is always present, in the here and now and available to me personally."
15. Professor Robert Neumann*
(nuclear and isotope chemistry and physics, Princeton University): "The existence of the universe requires me to conclude that God exists."
17. Dr. Arno Penzias*
(Nobel Prize for physics for first observation of the universal microwave background radiation, Vice-President for Research, AT&T Bell Laboratories): "...by looking at the order in the world, we can infer purpose and from purpose we begin to get some knowledge of the Creator, the Planner of all this. This is, then, how I look at God. I look at God through the works of God’s hands and from those works imply intentions. From these intentions, I receive an impression of the Almighty.” (TG: Read Romans 1:19-20 since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.)
19. Professor Abdus Salam***
(Nobel Prize for physics (elementary particle theory), Director, International Centre for Theoretical Physics, Trieste): "Now this sense of wonder leads most scientists to a Superior Being—der Alte, the Old One, as Einstein affectionately called the Deity—a Superior Intelligence, the Lord of all Creation and Natural Law."
20. Professor Arthur Schawlow*
(Nobel Prize for Physics [laser physics], Stanford University): "It seems to me that when confronted with the marvels of life one must ask why and not just how. The only possible answers are religious... I find a need for God in the universe and in my own life."
21. Professor Wolfgang Smith
(Philosophy, Mathematics and Physics, Oregon State University. His theoretical work provided the key for solving the re-entry problem in space flight): "If the physics of the last century prompted atheism, the physics of today is inciting at least the most thoughtful of its votaries to re-examine 'the question of God.'"
22. Professor Charles Townes*
(Nobel Prize for physics, development of the MASER/LASER, University of California, Berkeley): "I believe in the concept of God and in His existence."
23. Professor Eugene Wigner*
(Nobel Prize for physics, applications of symmetry principles—group theory to quantum mechanics—Princeton University): "The concept of God is a wonderful one—it also helps us makes decisions in the right direction. We would be very different, I fear, if we did not have that concept."
100 eminent Christian scientists (to believe in God does not make you an uncultivated) OR BELIEVE IN MYTHS
https://www.outono.net/elentir/2017/06/20/100-eminent-christian-scientists-to-believe-in-god-does-not-make-you-an-uncultivated/
and a few more
https://www.magiscenter.com/blog/how-these-scientists-belief-in-god-helped-them-understand-nature